Is there a chance that roles will be broken out at the bottom again?

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Or do we have to just accept the change / move on?

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What if we introduce a way to see all your backlog grouped by role, a bit like a user suggested, you would have three links: "Schedule Boards Roles"

Like the Boards view, you would be able to see your Schedule on the same page as the Roles board.

We would however keep the Plan of the Week as it is.

Would that solve the contention?

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What is your opinion about the Plan of the Week?

It's nice, but the view is constrained since I do want to see my tasks by role. Currently I'm working on a specific role and being a visual person... I would LOVE to see them organized in lanes...

Maybe a solution could be a little popup like the prioritize one, but with the old roles view... it's just something that is key to this whole concept.

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This feature for me is kind of make it or break it when it comes to buying the subscription... 

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Aymeric Founder
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+1 to this topic... I really liked the roles at the bottom of the week...

I did look into the boards... does that mean to make the roles thing work there, I have to add a lane for every role? Maybe instead of educating users about this, you can just have it be auto created in addition to the parking lot one.

What is your opinion about the Plan of the Week?

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Aymeric Founder
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+1 to this topic... I really liked the roles at the bottom of the week...

I did look into the boards... does that mean to make the roles thing work there, I have to add a lane for every role? Maybe instead of educating users about this, you can just have it be auto created in addition to the parking lot one.

The difficult bit is that not everyone would need this board, so potentially we should have asked as part of the new layout notification if the user wanted their tasks migrated to the board.

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+1 to this topic... I really liked the roles at the bottom of the week...

I did look into the boards... does that mean to make the roles thing work there, I have to add a lane for every role? Maybe instead of educating users about this, you can just have it be auto created in addition to the parking lot one.

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Aymeric Founder
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Also, perhaps it would be useful to understand how users use the product. There seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the new layout, thought it might just be the minority of users.

A lot of dissatisfaction comes from a few things:

- We should have better educated the users on the changes rather than simply updating the version without notification or tutorial

- Previously many users were using the HITs section as a backlog instead of a week list. The name of the product is called Week Plan, and I believe this Plan of the Week is the essence of Week Plan. If people want a backlog grouped by role, they can still do it using the board. Again, it is an education problem.

- There are some minor quirks with the Plan of the Week, like the sorting isn't quite right, and some people would prefer to see the HITs grouped by role. 

I am still trying to understand if there is another reason why people are disgruntled. 

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Also, perhaps it would be useful to understand how users use the product. There seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the new layout, thought it might just be the minority of users.

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I see. I understand where you're coming from. Also, it must be difficult to allow the toggling of different layouts (new and previously).


Will try your current suggestion for now and see it's still productive. Thank you for your time in addressing my queries.

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Aymeric Founder
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Wouldn't people with busy schedules thus also have a lot of tasks in the left pane, and thus need to scroll?

How many daily tasks do users have on average?

No I don't think they would have lots of tasks on the left. If you are already busy, you can potentially complete fewer HITs rather than more.

I don't have the daily tasks average here, but assuming someone has 5 tasks, you'd already not have much space under the schedule and you would have to scroll to see your HITs

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Wouldn't people with busy schedules thus also have a lot of tasks in the left pane, and thus need to scroll?

How many daily tasks do users have on average?

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Aymeric Founder
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Yes, the list of HITs (about 10-15 a week) are less visible on the new layout. On the other hand, there's a lot of empty space at the bottom of my schedule (where the roles used to be), as I try to only have 4-5 tasks daily. The schedule usually takes less than the top half of my screen. 

Thus, it would be ideal to have them (i) split by role, and (ii) at the bottom to optimise screen real estate (and thus not have to scroll).

I see, I need to optimise for the most important scenario here. Having the Plan of the Week clearly visible, instead of catering for people with fewer tasks in their schedule. My assumption is that people with busy schedules would benefit the most off the Plan of the Week.